BSC/HND DICHOTOMY

Engineers Throws out Bill on BSC/HND Disparity

The engineers in the House of Representatives and their friends were the one that threw out a bill, seeking removal of the civil service disparity in the treatment of University Degree holders and Higher National Diploma (HND) holders on 20th of may 2008 for just no reasons.

The bill was innocently sponsored by Honorable Ini Udo from Akwa Ibom State, and seconded by Honorable Ekpo Ekperikpe, also from Akwa Ibom. It was debated by the lawmakers for 30 minutes, and the Engineers have their way.

We asked our source the reason and why do the engineers hate the HND holders? No answer more than the need for middle level man power. The HND is not a middle level manpower! Not only will this affect HND in engineering but kill the moral of other professions who normally give better treatment to those from the polytechnic. The HND holders in building technology enjoy higher status and promotion while HND Civil engineering suffers the middle level waiting game..

The answer to the HND prayer was in the white paper waiting for the legal backing that the engineers kill. The government decision on this issue was put in balance by these singular actions of the engineers in the house as revealed by our own man.
How will HND holders who are frustrated by members of the same family function in the family. It's really not a bad idea to keep the HND away or turn every body to engineer, who will be the technologists? But then if there is no proper placement on those that have had HND for years back what happens to the new and young ones? Is that the reason why the polytechnic must award degrees? I bet you some people have always had this discrimination of a thing against people with B.Tech and HND as in getting jobs in this country. Something positive needs to be done in the engineering family.

At the last AGM of the TECHNICIAN NISET; they were just less than 40 in the meeting, 988 in the NISET register and 194 in COREN register. Majority of them have AMNSE with HND and ready to migrate. The youngest was above 50years of age. The encouragement of TECHNOLOGISTS, TECHNICIAN & Craftsman has to be done urgently by the engineering family of Nigeria. The relevant authorities’ decision on polytechnics graduates who have long finished school, using their certificates or still searching for Jobs across the country must have solution.

The problem of cheap decimator attitudes of those saddled with the responsibilities of our education in the past must stop; this could bring the negative thinking of technical education to an end.
Engineering family is sick if one cadre disappears..

I went thru ur monologue and was hit by ur lack of the structural and fundamental knowledge of the engineering profession. Suffice to say, "you cannot reduce the mountain to a knoll simply because you want to climb it". Cool Obed, pls know that from origin, the path has been clearly defined. i.e engineering profession and technical profession. It all depends on what u want. Again, the course curriculum and training style 4 both vary widely.ble Ini Udo from Akwa Ibom State, and seconded by Honorable Ekpo Ekperikpe, also from Akwa Ibom. It was debated by the lawmakers for 30 minutes, and the Engineers have their way.

We asked our source the reason and why do the engineers hate the HND holders? No answer more than the need for middle level man power. The HND is not a middle level manpower! Not only will this affect HND in engineering but kill the moral of other professions who normally give better treatment to those from the polytechnic. The HND holders in building technology enjoy higher status and promotion while HND Civil engineering suffers the middle level waiting game.

The answer to the HND prayer was in the white paper waiting for the legal backing that the engineers kill. The government decision on this issue was put in balance by these singular actions of the engineers in the house as revealed by our own man.
How will HND holders who are frustrated by members of the same family function in the family. It's really not a bad idea to keep the HND away or turn every body to engineer, who will be the technologists? But then if there is no proper placement on those that have had HND for years back what happens to the new and young ones? Is that the reason why the polytechnic must award degrees? I bet you some people have always had this discrimination of a thing against people with B.Tech and HND as in getting jobs in this country. Something positive needs to be done in the engineering family.

At the last AGM of the TECHNICIAN NISET; they were just less than 40 in the meeting, 988 in the NISET register and 194 in COREN register. Majority of them have AMNSE with HND and ready to migrate. The youngest was above 50years of age. The encouragement of TECHNOLOGISTS, TECHNICIAN & Craftsman has to be done urgently by the engineering family of Nigeria. The relevant authorities' decision on polytechnics graduates who have long finished school, using their certificates or still searching for Jobs across the country must have solution.

The problem of cheap decimator attitudes of those saddled with the responsibilities of our education in the past must stop; this could bring the negative thinking of technical education to an end.
Engineering family is sick if one cadre disappears.

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It is high time we concentrate on individual's ability and not on paper qualification or discrimination. your talent is not in the school you attended neither your certificate at hand. i have seen situation where an ND Holder in EE Engineering taught a B.ENG holder on resistors colour coding. what are we saying? Engineering is in practice not in class!

Dapo.

Both HND and B.Sc are means to an end. Shekina.

Very interesting piece by y'all.I think the msg is clear!If you don't have a B.Sc,aim to get one!even tho like we know your brains will be full of theory and void of practise.I recall during my IT when a 400 level Petroleum Engineering student couldn't identify a drill bit.I also have heard of poly graduates who couldn't interprete certain process diagrams.I for one hate the disparity and for those who take pride in the"structural and theoretical"basis for the engineering profession,let it be known to you that engineers of China designed and launched Nigerian spacecraft,engineers of other countries build and operate our refineries and every other thing engineering,You hardly won't see an Oyibo in charge of our road construction in all Nigeria and yet we are biased abt a "structural"basis.All those proponents of the B.Sc/HND dichotomy,let your work speak for you not your words,afterall the root word for "engineer"is tied to the English word "to create"substance and not theory.That's my take on this matter.I'll soon post the fact of the dichotomy genesis.How the polytechnic curriculum in Nigeria was watered down bcos Power players in Universities in the 70's couldn't stand competition.Everyone should watch out,it would answer the dichotomy question and prompt a new question."Is there any hope for Nigeria"?

@ anniwil you clearly understand the import of this article and your post is quite factual unlike that of...oche e above who just copied and pasted the entire article without making any meaninful contribution..I cant wait to read your post on the genesis of this dichotomy...