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@patorinni
Ur last post yesterday raised som valid points for inputs to our publication esp point 7.
Kindly do a mini writeup to serve as input for bebrief et al for d publication.
@all
I believe our aim is to create awareness, get d nnpc/dpr info to the public domain. A recruitment spanning almost 2yrs wif zero information watsoeva to applicants leaves little 2b desired in all ramification. D intention is questionable & wif each passing day d integrity of d process whittles away. What stops nnpc/dpr from mailling all who attended d interview explaining d reason 4d delay?
The nation's stakeholders
R busy wif looting our dear nation dry, so dis might nt interest dem bt let any nigerian who cares to know be informed.
I advocate d use of diplomacy in all publications but the era of undue caution has been overtaken by events.
meeting wif & lobbyin d mpr, dpr & nnpc board is absolutely unnecessary.
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@Seunlove: Even the three papers I mentioned ealier, I meant National Dailies ofcos. @Brief, Jesus Army, Debrown, @all comrades. Please let us choose DAILY TRUST for Northerners, THE NATION for southwest. Two can be from PUNCH, VANGUARD, THISDAY or SUN to represent SS/SE. We can start a publication with 50k this coming week with an agreed newspaper to be the first advertiser, we can proceed to second news paper wen we get another 50k, until we publish on the four papers. This method will serve more pressure because we will be publishing almost every week for 4weeks!.....Madam will say this people need to be sorted before they damage my reputation.
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We can tell the news papers we are concern jobless comrades and they can help us with discount and do us a favour by capturing a headline on front page that our publication inside the newspaper with page reference. Like (DPR/NNPC recruitment Scam publication:see page 6)
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@ Sakabu, good strategy. instead of using the whole budget on one tabloid, we can use 3 or 4 different media houses to drive home our point.
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Guys we need to strategize, and this is one that can save us money and even earn us a bold front page caption. We will go with a printed copy of the contribution page on NHJ.
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@SAKABU, that submission of yours is brilliant,but do we really have the energy to redraft and panel beat our manuscript in such a way that would suggest freshness required for the journalistic firmament ? these newspapers are ego conscious and there is an invincible benchmark of setting the pace within the industry, they dont like recasting uninteresting stale news, our's is not totally interesting because no drama surrounds it.if we can produce three other intellectual masterpiece, then we are good to go.
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a gud strategy .we should nt use 1 publictn.lets be hitting every week until they listen.we av to find out first if she is in the country.
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@Bebrief, what is your take on the strategy downpour ? @naijapatriot what is your opinion ? your responses are anticipated, so that all bricoleurs can proceed to handle their lingustic pen. i personally volunteer to submit a version, if varied content and tabloid publication is approved. please no blackberry caucus, it will mark the beginning of the end, a death knell of division and our collective efforts would be reduced to a puerile charade, a besmirked apparition of folly laden with disunity.
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@sakabu, seunlove, patorinni, good thinking! I go with ur idea. Lets fire it on diff papers and diff time interval.
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@berief & debrown: IF finally 200k was agreed for one publication, which of the news papers are we going to use???
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@ALL: I sincerely support the opinions that say we should send strong men delegation to the honorable minister. This is to clarify any painful misgivings about the recruitment before making any damning publication in the national dailies. We are all concerned on this process because of the long time elapsed already, and the fear that this 2010 recruitment might take the steps of 2008 exercise that was aborted. On the contrary, let us not lose focus of the fact that the petroleum industry has been suffering from serious set-back emanating from corruption and inefficiency. Hence, we are caught in the long wait of the transformation agenda in the guise of PIB. If the intention is not to totally truncate the recruitment, and we consciously tread on this dangerous path of publication to indict some suspicious elements, we might be invariably shooting ourselves in the leg. So, pls lets treat cautiously my dear comrades by exhausting every diplomatic avenues before hitting the air waves. “The MPR is a human being” as somebody in the house says and not a monster that cannot listing.That’s my suggestion!!!
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If one paper carries it for us, the rest of then will also follow in fact for free ofcourse. The minister, and the entire petroleum industry news is a hot cake today concerning the scandals surrounding the fuel subsidy report thing and the lawalgate affair. The reaction that will follow is also a
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May be we should nominate patorinni and Bravejustice to represent us talk to the MPR
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Nice 2b back comrades. Its most disheartening listening 2some of us who are supposd 2b adults talk about sending delegates 2d MPR. I tel u by d time ur tru wit dat u'll just realized dat u've actualy exposed ur high level of ignorance d more. What are even ur fears wit making d publication straight away. Dat d process may b cancelld abi? I tel u,wit wat has already happened so far, by d time d list comes out,d percentage of people who actualy applied 4d job dat wil make d list wil shock some hopefuls 2d xtent dat many'll never submit an application when next NNPC advertises. Do u think since 2006 dat NNPC recruited publicly last til even dis week,dat they've not been absorbing fresh graduates,experienced hands,etc. Or do u think d staff members have not been resigning,getting sacked,dieing, etc. What do u even think you'll ever get frm d MPR when u see her. Deceitful promises ofcourse,except u've not taken time 2listen 2her b4. Wake up guys cos he dat is down needs fears no fall. As 4me, i would rather remain wit d status-quo than make myself an extralarge laughing stock in a market square. Selah!!!
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Reason not emotions is what we all need here.....someone mentioned Ikemba's phrase "Because I am involved" and it really got me thinking if we are not being stampeded to rash ends "because we are indeed involved"
Does the current structure and activities level of NNPC and DPR support recruitment? If you are the CEO of any of these Corporations will you want to increase your Operating/personnel cost without first addressing the inefficiency of the organization? Why do we consider it so far fetched that the PIB which is designed to realign the MDA's under the MPR is directly responsible for the delay being experienced?
I am not against a demand for clarification but I suggest the publication be factual and not laced with innuendos neither should make disparaging remarks on persons based on mere suspicion and assertion of forumites who have been branding "reliable source" for months. Let us not entangle this process further with a libelous publication. Do not impute a scam exist where there is no proof. I trust we can make the case on the gestation of this recruitment and the parallel of 2008 without being derisive without cause.
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Fine point BraveJustice, Is this publication to seek clarification or to vent and let off steam??? Friends the former should be the focus and we must note that no matter how plausible some of our speculations and fears are, they remain unfounded and if we want to be taken serious and not seen as another political distraction from a faceless group the publication must stay focus to getting the MPR to state what the challenge is with the recruitment.
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@ALL: ....... path of publication to indict some suspicious elements, .............
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What if we are all wrong about our judgements and perceived assumptions about the whole process. What if we've started mixing emotions with our sense of moral judgements, what if most of our assertions are based on feed burners from NHJ. We have dwelt too long on the forum and we have gradually become a mix of all there is in NHJ. I will remind us who we are, we are the finest from a pool of tens of thousands that applied, we should still be able to reason and deduce facts that holds sway. No doubt this has overstayed, most of us cannot apply for another GT Application again, but we should not be the ones to kill the giants in us.
The one issue that removed credence from the way and manner the NNPC handled the process is the prolonged silence on their part. To those fingering the NNPC, Do we have facts and figures to show that the NNPC has been absorbing fresh graduates(staffs)? Can we lay hold on any story we postulate here. We need facts now and not fiction. We are undertaking a venture that will either make or mar the whole process if we judge wrongly. If we must put the publication then we must be able to say who we are and we must address it to either of the following.
1. The President, the MPR or the Board of the NNPC/DPR. We should also note that no editorial board accepts faceless publications to that magnitude.
2. In advent of addressing it to any of the above except the President, we will only beg for answers to the unending wait: since we don't have facts to juxtapose our assertions here.
3. If we address to the President, then we are asking the President to intervene in the matter.
4. If we just put up an advertorial, then we intend to win the sympathy of Nigerians, human rights activist, labour unions alike. Then we can pour out all the misdemeanors of the NNPC/DPR with their recruitment consultant(Phillips Consulting) with proofs, facts and figures.
At this stage, it will interest us to note that each option has its attendant pros and cons. Let's build on these options and from there we can have follow-up actions and plans.
We all have sources at least, at one point our sources were feeding us: it is only natural now that we also seek some advice from our various sources about our impending actions. The obvious remains that we will keep silent no more. I hope we know that NHJ is accessible to all even the NNPC/DPR board, so we don't have to pretend as if they are not aware of proceedings here.
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Well, all I can say is that d efforts of d members on this thread is commendable, but I advice that U thread with caution and diplomacy, from a reliable source who happens 2 be a close friend and colleague working with NNPC Abuja, computer section, he said dat he was shocked seeing people(connected) coming with employment letters 4 graduate trainee and experienced positions while he is aware dat d process has not yet been concluded, he therefore advised my broda who happens 2 be an NNPC hopeful accordingly to 4get abt. d recruitment as NNPC have never been sincere with their recruitment, 2 God be d glory, my broda is presently with Bristow helicopters and is undergoing a 2yrs aircraft maintenance engineering training at Zaria...NNPC recruitment is all a fraud, just pure scam...
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This is not a matter of sentiments. If not that this thread is in a public domain those of us who seem doubtful of NNPC long standing fraudulent recruitment patterns and who still make arguements as if they just came back to the country after many many years of sojourn, i would have just given you some impeccable facts and data with regards to names and locations regarding some positions which hitherto appeared on the job advert but on which people have been employed recently. But be that as it may,for me i'll just keep that aside for now and continue with my alternative approach to the matter. I feel quite chocked with time and its like i'll have to take another vacation for some time so as to meet up with some engagements. Goodbye all,one house, & Jah bless.
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u guys make me laf.u wil use ur own hands 2 distroy wat hav build.U WISH TO HAVE A MEETING WITH MPR?Hahahaha.in lyf,if u want 2 conquer an ENERMY,u nid 2 start finkin lyk dat enermy.we go 2 ALISON D. M,she sweet talk us as usual,promise us soonest or even give a false date.leading 2 inability of making dis publications.and we wil get tired of waitin,thereby restrategisin.we put d publication in d papers.d masses n d press begins 2 ask QUESTIONS.den she wil hold a 30mins conference givin xcuses n backing it up strongly dat she hosted HOPEFULS n promised soonest.n so she dont si reasons n nid 4 such false alligations n publication.4dis,every wil bliv her.lets us suprise dem n catch dem unaware.u cant catch a criminal by givin him/her awarenes b4 comin.GUYS,Nigerian politicians r liars n she is one.D BEST FORM OF DEFENCE IS 2 ATTACK.u attack her n she wil so defenceless cus she has bin attackin us wit d delay.wat exces can dey hav 4 almost 2yrs delay rada dan disregard 4 us.why dem alone?every oda oil n gas coy both national n multinational hav bin recruitin na.its just pure selfishnes.without hidden agenda 4rm dem,I SAY and REPEAT,DIS PUBLICATION CAN N WILL NEVA B A REASON 4 D CANCELLATION OF D PROCESS.
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i told d house b4 dat my neighbour just employed when she came frm msc uk.they are employin their people.lets try pubctn if it doesnt work we hit ground wit protest at nnpc
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@Jeffisme and patorinni, you guys just dropped in from the UK, or you probably live in America ?. your postulations are too idealistic and consequently fugitive utopia. it shows you guys are pure and innocent guys but you cannot extrapolate from that to explain the decayed situation in Nigeria. let me assure you and reiterate with emphasis that no letter is coming out from those towers without decisive actions from the hopefuls, this recruitment from the onset is scam intended and politically induced.
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Happy sunday all. One of the best ways to fight when there are no much facts is to list as many things as possible against the enemy. Then as he/she makes defense, we can now be looking at some alternative ways it could have been done better. And pick holes. Let me also say that these people do not have good plans for us. So, if we can scandalize them I think they will be on defense. Again, according to a source, Everybody who attended the interview was shortlisted for appointment, But now, they are removing peoples name from the list and giving employment to their own people. If such is true how do u produce facts for such. This is the reasons why if it is possible to seek a human right lawyer, the better for us. Some of them can really be human right in their costing. We may equally form a coalition to Abuja with some human rights activists. To hit the ground again. Or inform somebody like the noble Wole sohinka for an employment related article. This may look expensive but may be almost free.
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@princealex and korokoro please furnish debrown and bebrief with you claims. These are the kind of facts we need, the more concise we are the better.
@seunlove please digest my post again. I stand for whatever the house decides to do, but we should have clear sense of judgements and good plans.
On the day of the protest, I was the only hopeful @ the PH venue. If there had been another hopeful we would have been able to stamp our presence. what lessons did we learn from that protest?
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Seunlove, You maybe right about this process being a scam from the onset, but again you may be wrong. Do you have substantiated facts or you intend to go to press with the creative imagination of persons who this forum whose equivocal posturing is legendary.
I find it curious that it is same set of Prophets and those with "reliable information" that are now clamoring for media war based on "new information" they now have. I recall that they were privy to Board Decision in the past, even confirmed that PTI has been reserved, some on the DPR thread months ago saw there names at the FCC........ I have always said it is not official until it is official.
I can come here and say I KNOW 30 persons who just resumed at one of the NNPC subsidiary......is these kind of unverified stories that we want to add to a simply fact finding publication?
While an extended process may not be common in GT recruitment, the same cannot be said for Experienced Hires in this industry. The only difference for me is that there is a precedence of NNPC abandoning a process.
I am not asking that the publication not be made, I only believe we must separate myth from reality. If that is Utopia, time will tell.
Happy Fathers Day............................
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@Jeffisme and patorinni, you guys just dropped in from the UK, or you probably live in America ?. your postulations are too idealistic and consequently fugitive utopia. it shows you guys are pure and innocent guys but you cannot extrapolate from that to explain the decayed situation in Nigeria. let me assure you and reiterate with emphasis that no letter is coming out from those towers without decisive actions from the hopefuls, this recruitment from the onset is scam intended and politically induced.
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@ jonkal please PM your facts to Debrown and Bebrief it wil help us a lot
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I must comment d untiring effort of all hopefuls. Pls dis is nt time 4 argument and some sweet talks. we earlier agreed as a family dat we shld hit d media hence d contributn. Guys, we gat no time here, NNPC will soon dissolve their board members, i promise u , it will take anoda 2months 2 fix an appointment 2 see madam minister. Pls guys,wat i think we shld start doing nw is let start putting 2geda a sample write up 2 be presented 2 d media, so we all can vet and make inputs wit suggested opinions. Once again we gat no time, we must act nw. Humble regards 2 d house.
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I think there is a policy that all recruitment into all government's MDAs should be advertised and open to all. So we should request in our publication that all employment into NNPC and DPR from 2008 to date be reviewed with the objective of ascertaining the advert that was placed for their recruitment. Any review done will reveal that they have been recruiting without following due process. Because I know so many persons who have been employed in NNPC within these period and no advert was placed for any vacancy. It will be a real scam and they will be scared to continue with the usual back door employment.
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@ edalob please forward your claims as PM to Bebrief and Debrown. We need as much facts as we can get. Pls house, forward your claims of backdoor recruitment from Nov.2010 to date to Bebrief and Debrown as PM
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Yes, this call is very important. Any one with any fact should because of this struggle forward it to @Debrown and @bebrief. This is to aid us make more factual claims. This will not in any way stop us for going to media. Whether facts or not. Thank God we have some facts of the adverts, Test writing and interview.As well as the Gmd claims that 80% failed. FCC is the best place to know if it is a policy for any MDA to recruit unpublished. @adalob: Thank u for such point as; "So we should request in our publication that all employment into NNPC and DPR from 2008 to date be reviewed with the objective of ascertaining the advert that was placed for their recruitment".
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I'm not for meeting any MPR.......meanwhile for d publication, what is the content supposed 2 look like
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let us focus on publication n start wt d little at hand. We av little or no time
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I was thinking that by now all that will be on tip of our tongues would be how much we have contributed and how much more we have to meet up our set target, rather some people are still taking us back with opinions that could cause discrepancies. Please hopefuls let us not forget that when two out three are gathered with the same spiritual aim and great powers, the world will fall into their hands like a ripe peach
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All the evil spirit operating in the minds of the devilish boko haram shall die in the name of Jesus. the hands of the evil doer shal wither and their heart shall know no peace in jesus name. three cordinated suicide bombings targeted at churches occured in kaduna today. and this will be the major headline for nextweek. the implication is that the publication should not come tomorrow because it cannot compete for attention with the bomb siege.i decree plague,sickness and sorrow upon boko haram in jesus name
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I was thinking that by now all that will be on tip of our tongues would be how much we have contributed and how much more we have to meet up our set target, rather some people are still taking us back with opinions that could cause discrepancies. Please hopefuls let us not forget that when two out three are gathered with the same spiritual aim and great powers, the world will fall into their hands like a ripe pea
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Firstly my condolences to all those who lost loved ones in today's barbaric acts of violence. May the good Lord give the bereaved the fortitude to bear the loss. That having said, may I cease this opportunity to appreciate all those who have made financial contributions to our cause especially animontee for that awesome amount and to also inform this noble house that I was privileged to meet a top broadcaster in one of the most popular and successful tv stations in the Nation and explained our plight from scratch to finish. I was surprised to realise he was already informed about it, asked me if it was the recruitment in which a lady left her wedding reception,said they were abreast of activities concerning It, said we would have stood a very good chance of large and wide media coverage if we had gone ahead with the protest cause then the press could have something to feed off from as the press can not go digging news by itself, cause then it would seem as if they have certain interest. This was in response to my seeking his media co-operation to create awareness for us. When I briefed him about our intention to go public via newspaper publication he became rather interested especially the part that we were the ones trying to raise funds for the publication. Said that was a good angle for the press, said they would help in giving media coverage based on the publication, gave me personal contacts for further deliberations when wev been able to come out with the publication. So I think we have a very good opportunity to have our story heard, but its all in our hands right now, I still know how it felt to have been 'stood up' on that protest day with just me,bebrief,debrown,4gkelvin,Jarmy and favouredstands rep (Timothy) as visible attendees. Please trust me,it wouldn't be fun reliving that feeling again, we have another 'golden' opportunity in our hands,let's not blow it. I was discussing with debrown and we are thinking incorporating friends,family,colleagues,biz partners etc as many who would sympathise with us and pay into our simsolutions account even if its in dummy names. We can all explore that option,a new week is before us and we are just a lil above 10% of our expected target, I would suggest (just my humble suggestion please) that we harness all our energies into increasing our funds, after which our options are limitless. This is my humble loco masi and the loc masi administered without loco partial.
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tunwumi
I believe we have gone past the stage of talking all we need now is action.
No more visit to anybody just make the publication to make our voice heard. Gone are the days of begger have no choice.
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.......Guys formally, let me introduce myself to the rest of the hopeful...............
i have as a matter of fact been following this forum from onset...................
sorry i have hitherto remained silent. however i choose to brake this silent which is killing me softly
please all the talks about a press publication, confronting Diezna, ect.............
well, ask me what i feel and think?? ................. i wish we all could stick to one suggestion and stop all these suggestions and counter suggestion
if there is need to make a publication, please let that be done azzap
and if there is need to meet with Diezna and ask reason why she is still holding us ransom, same should also to done azzap!
henceforth, i beg to take a lead position from here, u guys just say what we need and i assure u i can muscle all the needed ingredients for doing it!
again, i beg to be forgiving from a long silence and on the side participant!! reach me on" 08037762106,
thanks (sSYGgi)
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Originally Posted by
tunwumi
I believe we have gone past the stage of talking all we need now is action.
No more visit to anybody just make the publication to make our voice heard. Gone are the days of begger have no choice.
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.......Guys formally, let me introduce myself to the rest of the hopefuls...............
i have as a matter of fact been following this forum from onset...................
sorry i have hitherto remained silent. however i choose to brake this silent which is killing me softly
please all the talks about a press publication, confronting Diezna, ect.............
well, ask me what i feel and think?? ................. i wish we all could stick to one suggestion and stop all these suggestions and counter suggestion
if there is need to make a publication, please let that be done azzap
and if there is need to meet with Diezna and ask reason why she is still holding us ransom, same should also to done azzap!
henceforth, i beg to take a lead position from here, u guys just say what we need and i assure u i can muscle all the needed ingredients for doing it!
again, i beg to be forgiving from a long silence and on the side participant!! reach me on" 08037762106,
thanks (sSYGgi)